We're launching our new couples series by sharing our authentic love story - from meeting on Bumble in 2017 to discovering how reading the Bible together transformed our marriage.
We open up about our pre-Christ relationship struggles, the challenges of living without God at the center, and the intellectual awakening we experienced when we finally picked up Scripture together.
This raw, honest conversation sets the foundation for future discussions about marriage, faith, and cultural challenges from a biblical perspective.
What You Can Expect
Authentic vulnerability about marriage struggles before finding Christ
Intellectual honesty about the Bible's relevance and power in modern relationships
Practical insight into how Scripture transformed their daily marriage dynamics
Hope and encouragement for couples seeking deeper spiritual connection
Fresh perspective from a former atheist and spiritual seeker who found truth together
Real talk about lukewarm Christianity and the importance of actually reading God's Word
Episode Chapters
[00:00] Welcome & Series Introduction - Brandon introduces the new Heart to Heart format
[01:57] Meet Your Hosts - First impressions and why we're doing this together
[04:53] Our Mission & Authenticity - What listeners can expect from our raw, honest series
[08:55] The Bumble Beginning - How we met in San Diego and early relationship dynamics
[12:03] California Days & Lifestyle - Living hedonistically before Christ entered our lives
[16:29] Career Crisis & Relationship Testing - Brandon's toxic CEO experience nearly destroyed us
[22:52] The Big Move Decision - Ashley's boundary about marriage before leaving California
[25:41] Elopement During COVID - Getting married at a Starbucks during lockdowns
[28:38] Becoming Parents - Getting pregnant immediately after moving to North Carolina
[32:23] Finding Faith Through Scripture - Our shocking discovery of what the Bible actually says
[38:51] Ashley's Atheist Journey - How the Holy Spirit protected her even without belief
[46:00] Biblical Context Changes Everything - Understanding why the world is the way it is
[50:49] Intellectual Honesty About Faith - Joe Rogan, the Big Bang, and pursuing truth
[53:47] Lukewarm Christianity Problem - How fake believers pushed us away from faith
[55:34] Closing Prayer & Next Steps - What's coming in future episodes
Episode Invitation to Action
Start reading the Bible together as a couple this week. Pick any book and commit to reading just one chapter together each day.
Don't rely on other people's interpretations - discover for yourselves what God's Word actually says about marriage, relationships, and life.
If you're single, begin reading on your own and ask God to prepare your heart for the kind of biblical marriage Brandon and Ashley describe.
Key Quotes & Insights
Brandon: "When we view our marriage as a means to serve God together, as our marriage sits under that umbrella of God, it's the foundation sits on His foundation... it changes you in different ways."
Ashley: "Most of us are full of pride fighting to be right, not fighting for what's right. We just wanna be right... it's not the pursuit for truth then."
Together: We discovered the Bible provides intellectual, emotional, and spiritual stimulation at every level - "It's a metaphysical experience" that gives context to why the world operates as it does and offers the only framework that truly makes sense of human relationships and suffering.
Ways to Connect
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"Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." - Mark 10:9
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